One to guess!! ?
Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 9:35 pm
I'm not totally sure, but I think it's a picture of a plant?
Besides that, dunno
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One to guess!! ?
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Re: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 10:25 pm
Re: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 5:33 am
Wild guess, Piper nigrum?
Re: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:55 am
Why guess when you can, as you invite, work it out?
Starting information.
No stamens so probably a female spike from a dioecious plant.
Trifolate leaf and six petals.
Grown by Charlie so probably a climber.
It isn't a Lapageria, and Charlie's other 'big thing' is the Holboellia/Akebia family; the Lardizabalaceae.
Google 'Lardizabalaceae flowers' and you find
But that links to a journal behind a pay wall, but we know we are on the right track now.
Wikipedia for Lardizabalaceae gives only 9 genera to check, and I know 5 of them and can be confident it isn't them.
So google 'flowers' with;
Archakebia. No direct 'hit'. So no photo on the internet; unlikely to be in cultivation. And 'Monoecious or seldom dioecious.' according to the online Flora of China.
Boquila. Not that, but a plant that can 'mimic the host’s leaves in a phenomenon called mimetic polymorphism'. New information to me!
Sargentodoxa. Not that.
Sinofranchetia . Bingo. And a monotypic genus so it has to be Sinofranchetia chinensis.
4 minutes to work it out and 20 minutes to post this!
My IT skills are a bit basic!
Chad
Starting information.
No stamens so probably a female spike from a dioecious plant.
Trifolate leaf and six petals.
Grown by Charlie so probably a climber.
It isn't a Lapageria, and Charlie's other 'big thing' is the Holboellia/Akebia family; the Lardizabalaceae.
Google 'Lardizabalaceae flowers' and you find
But that links to a journal behind a pay wall, but we know we are on the right track now.
Wikipedia for Lardizabalaceae gives only 9 genera to check, and I know 5 of them and can be confident it isn't them.
So google 'flowers' with;
Archakebia. No direct 'hit'. So no photo on the internet; unlikely to be in cultivation. And 'Monoecious or seldom dioecious.' according to the online Flora of China.
Boquila. Not that, but a plant that can 'mimic the host’s leaves in a phenomenon called mimetic polymorphism'. New information to me!
Sargentodoxa. Not that.
Sinofranchetia . Bingo. And a monotypic genus so it has to be Sinofranchetia chinensis.
4 minutes to work it out and 20 minutes to post this!
My IT skills are a bit basic!
Chad
Re: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 10:20 am
Hoped it would keep you amused a bit longer!
Its a bit more interesting in fruit which appears to be edible (well I didn't get ill!) but rather unpalatable certainly not sweet like the Holboellia and Akebia It also seems a lot more reliable at producing fruit that the other two given that I only have the one plant.
Sinofranchetia chinensis 077 by charliepridham, on Flickr
My Lardizabala is yet to flower (I grew it from seed so not sure what that fruit is like)
Boquila, is indeed a weird thing, mine has tried to flower once but not again and yes the leaves do appear a bit different depending on what its growing through
Its a bit more interesting in fruit which appears to be edible (well I didn't get ill!) but rather unpalatable certainly not sweet like the Holboellia and Akebia It also seems a lot more reliable at producing fruit that the other two given that I only have the one plant.
Sinofranchetia chinensis 077 by charliepridham, on FlickrMy Lardizabala is yet to flower (I grew it from seed so not sure what that fruit is like)
Boquila, is indeed a weird thing, mine has tried to flower once but not again and yes the leaves do appear a bit different depending on what its growing through
Re: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 12:47 pm
Yeah, that was my second guess ;)Chad wrote:Why guess when you can, as you invite, work it out?
Starting information.
No stamens so probably a female spike from a dioecious plant.
Trifolate leaf and six petals.
Grown by Charlie so probably a climber.
It isn't a Lapageria, and Charlie's other 'big thing' is the Holboellia/Akebia family; the Lardizabalaceae.
Google 'Lardizabalaceae flowers' and you find
But that links to a journal behind a pay wall, but we know we are on the right track now.
Wikipedia for Lardizabalaceae gives only 9 genera to check, and I know 5 of them and can be confident it isn't them.
So google 'flowers' with;
Archakebia. No direct 'hit'. So no photo on the internet; unlikely to be in cultivation. And 'Monoecious or seldom dioecious.' according to the online Flora of China.
Boquila. Not that, but a plant that can 'mimic the host’s leaves in a phenomenon called mimetic polymorphism'. New information to me!
Sargentodoxa. Not that.
Sinofranchetia . Bingo. And a monotypic genus so it has to be Sinofranchetia chinensis.
4 minutes to work it out and 20 minutes to post this!
My IT skills are a bit basic!
Chad
Re: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 7:12 am
I will look for something more challenging!! :lol:
Re: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:00 pm
flounder wrote:Yeah, that was my second guess ;)Chad wrote:Why guess when you can, as you invite, work it out?
Starting information.
No stamens so probably a female spike from a dioecious plant.
Trifolate leaf and six petals.
Grown by Charlie so probably a climber.
It isn't a Lapageria, and Charlie's other 'big thing' is the Holboellia/Akebia family; the Lardizabalaceae.
Google 'Lardizabalaceae flowers' and you find
You were floundering on that one flounder. Doh :lol:
But that links to a journal behind a pay wall, but we know we are on the right track now.
Wikipedia for Lardizabalaceae gives only 9 genera to check, and I know 5 of them and can be confident it isn't them.
So google 'flowers' with;
Archakebia. No direct 'hit'. So no photo on the internet; unlikely to be in cultivation. And 'Monoecious or seldom dioecious.' according to the online Flora of China.
Boquila. Not that, but a plant that can 'mimic the host’s leaves in a phenomenon called mimetic polymorphism'. New information to me!
Sargentodoxa. Not that.
Sinofranchetia . Bingo. And a monotypic genus so it has to be Sinofranchetia chinensis.
4 minutes to work it out and 20 minutes to post this!
My IT skills are a bit basic!
Chad
Re: Another One to guess!! ?
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:40 am
I am finding it tricky to find something not too obvious (especially as Chad knows the garden!)
011 by charliepridham, on Flickr
011 by charliepridham, on FlickrRe: One to guess!! ?
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:39 pm
It is an 'Aunt Sally' for me; I know this plant so shan't name it yet.
Note the sharply pointed sepals, and the the blooms are not opening in strict order up the spike.
I think I remember it has a square stem [not very visible in the picture] and tripartite leaves.
An herbaceous perennial smelling of 'cedar'.
Chad
Note the sharply pointed sepals, and the the blooms are not opening in strict order up the spike.
I think I remember it has a square stem [not very visible in the picture] and tripartite leaves.
An herbaceous perennial smelling of 'cedar'.
Chad