Tremenheere Friday 24th October

[MartinNicklin]

That’s a lovely form Chad. I got excited to read it had seen -4 and survived and then hopes dashed by someone saying thy had lost theirs even in a frost-free greenhouse. In my greenhouse my exoniensis from Charlie is still going and scrambling about in various directions but even after a couple of years there has been no sign of a bloom so hopefully next year will be the year! I toyed with manicata recently but have read the same wildly differing views on its hardiness. Treseders were selling it cheap but their image looked very different from others I’d seen, pink rather than red.

[charlie]

I find predictions of low temperatures fairly unreliable as (like me) most people go by what the forecast says they have had and very few people have a good temperature gauge in their gardens and even fewer will have one where the plant is actually growing! I will be hugely surprised if something that has either coccinea or vitifolia in its parentage proves to be "hardy in the uk"

When we moved here 43 years ago it was suggested that we buy trays and trays of end of season tender bedding and plant them all over the garden then note which got frosted first and whether any spots were better than others, sadly since then we have lost the notes and anyway the garden has changed hugely

Martin
Passiflora x exoniensis and its two parents will only flower on new growth that comes off older growth and I have never found that I can get them to flower in pots, an added complication is they need relatively cool conditions in summer and mild conditions in winter!!

[Chad]

OK, after a bit of hunting.

'Passiflora cocuyensis ssp.Nova'

Should be Passiflora cocuyensis formerly known as 'Nova'.

It was a seed introduction from Crûg [2016] initially identified [wrongly] as Passiflora semiciliosa and collected near El Cocuy, Colombia.

When it was found not to be that it was 'Nova', meaning 'a new one'.

It was formally described as Passiflora cocuyensis in 2024.

Phytotaxa 663(2), August 20, 2024

That doesn't help with guessing its hardiness though!

ssp should mean subspecies, which misled me in the formulation 'Passiflora cocuyensis ssp.Nova'.

Chad

[neIl armstrong]

"On the subject of Passiflora this is probably my all time favourite Passiflora cocuyensis ssp.Nova, proving hardy here in coastal Dorset without protection " Paul James Allen
We will see ...but interesting comment!